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Real Talk with Life After Grief Chris
Real Talk with Life After Grief Chris
The Guardian Angel: How Heidi Burnett Prevents Grief One Swim Lesson at a Time
A child drowns every day in America. The silence that follows devastates families, communities, and changes lives forever. But what if these tragedies could be prevented?
Meet Heidi Burnett, founder of Swim Sprout and a woman on a profound mission to stop drowning before it happens. With drowning being the leading cause of death for children ages 1-4 and claiming 320,000 lives worldwide annually, Heidi's work isn't just teaching swimming—it's literally saving lives.
Heidi shares her remarkable journey from competitive swimmer to senior master instructor who's trained over 30 swimming instructors. Her scientifically-based methodology uses operant conditioning and reinforcement schedules to teach even infants as young as nine months old how to roll onto their backs and float—a skill that can mean the difference between life and death.
"I felt like he saw something in me that I probably hadn't seen in myself yet," Heidi reflects on her business growth, expanding from a solo operation to a team of 15 instructors across multiple states. Her story illuminates how passion combined with mentorship can transform both a business and countless lives.
The conversation takes a powerful turn when host Chris shares personal stories of his own children using their survival swimming skills, including a moment when his son fell into a pool fully clothed and executed his training perfectly. These aren't just swimming lessons—they're insurance against unimaginable grief.
Discover how Heidi's partnership with the Quentin Hunter Love Foundation is bringing swim lessons to underprivileged children and support to families who have experienced loss. Her work reminds us that while we cannot eliminate every danger, we can equip our children with the skills to survive them.
Ready to learn more about drowning prevention or find survival swimming lessons for your child? Visit SwimSprout.com and help ensure water remains a source of joy rather than tragedy for your family.
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Welcome to Real Talk with Life After Grief, chris, where we talk about relevant issues as it relates to individuals in grief as they navigate finances and the advisors who help them. We help clients in grief navigate financial matters. We also teach advisors how to emotionally and financially work with clients in grief through an unparalleled process. This week's episode is sponsored by Life After Grief Financial Planning and Life After Grief Consulting. Hello and welcome to another episode of Real Talk with Life After Grief, chris. Have you ever met someone that prevents grief? Well, I have. Let me introduce you to Heidi Burnett.
Speaker 1:Heidi is the owner and founder of Swim Sprout. Swim Sprout's mission is to teach students the necessary skills and confidence to survive an aquatic accident and build a foundation for lifetime enjoyment of water activities. I was fortunate to meet Heidi a little over eight years ago, when my wife and I were looking for someone to train Eli, my oldest son, not to drown. Amory and I heard hundreds and hundreds of stories of swimming accidents where children did not survive. We did not want to be a statistic. Amory and I are both very fortunate that we learned how to swim at an early age, and I are both very fortunate that we learned how to swim at an early age. We have even had a family friend whose grandchild did not survive a swimming accident.
Speaker 1:We came to know Heidi through a series of recommendations. After a grueling interview by myself, we employed Heidi and her company. Heidi is a dynamic lady who has a passion for teaching kids the necessary skills to survive an aquatic accident. Heidi and her family have even become extended family to my family as well. Nervous coming onto the podcast today, and I tend to throw Heidi under the bus she's not that great at technology, so I had to walk her through some things as well to make her comfortable. So, heidi, please tell us about yourself, what you do, why you're so good at it, and thank you for being on my podcast. I'm really humbled that you said yes.
Speaker 2:Good morning, chris, and thank you for having me. You said yes. Good morning Chris, and thank you for having me. It's an honor to be here and I definitely hesitated to say yes when you asked me to do this, so thank you for making me once again step out of my comfort zone, like you always do. My number one priority is teaching infants, toddlers and young children swimming and floating skills, so if they're faced with an aquatic situation, they have a fighting chance to save themselves by utilizing their skills. Educating the parents throughout their journey their child's journey is also a byproduct of me teaching their children. My second priority is mentoring 15 instructors under my Swim Sprout umbrella. The 15 instructors initially undergo a seven-week training with 40 hours of hands-on in water along with academic study to parallel each weekend lessons with a student.
Speaker 1:Let me interject something, Heidi, really quick. So that's a very important asset of your business that you have 15 instructors. Is that what you said under you?
Speaker 2:Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:I'm too young to be called a sir. How did you get to that point of getting 15 instructors? And that's very important, because what I see you doing from the time that I first met you to now is you've expanded your reach and say that you're able to meet I don't know, maybe 100 families yourself in any given season, and now you're able to replicate that 15 times. I want to know about that aspect.
Speaker 2:Okay. So I trained under the Infant Swimming Resource umbrella and I worked with them for 12 years. After 12 years I decided that I was going to branch out and take my own experience and training to a whole other level.
Speaker 1:So you became an entrepreneur.
Speaker 2:I did.
Speaker 1:I did.
Speaker 2:And in that first year is when I met you. So I was in the beginning stages of just starting to build Swim Sprout. I had two instructors when I met you and with my previous company I had trained over 30 instructors at that time. I had worked for them for 12 years and I went.
Speaker 1:So I don't mean to interrupt you. So you training instructors was nothing new. That's what I'm kind of seeing here is that you trained so many instructors. It was kind of a natural evolution of you building your own business, is that right?
Speaker 2:That is correct. Training was my forte, for sure, between children and training instructors. That was definitely my forte when I lacked the intellect and was on the business side, which is where you came in. I had several years of experience training several instructors throughout the United States and I wanted to bring that home so that I could be home with my young adult or my young teen children, and that's what led me to branch out and start this on my own.
Speaker 1:Your young adult daughters, who were babysitters for my young boys for many years. So this is a pretty intimate relationship. So I spoke about that at the beginning, but we are definitely extensions of our own family. So I just like to plug some of those things in. Heidi, keep going. I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Speaker 2:That's okay. You didn't want to plug in that we all raked leaves for several years as well. That's correct. So didn't want to plug in that we all raked leaves for several years as well.
Speaker 1:That's correct. So we're going to get off subject a little bit here. So, yes, her daughters, who are very responsible young ladies. I employed them, and Heidi may have come over once or twice to help. But we have an oak tree that spits off thousands and thousands of leaves, and so I employed her daughters because I knew they were responsible and they weren't afraid of hard work. So they came over for many years to rake leaves in kind of my absence, because it was getting to be too much for one person. So I digress, heidi, but yes, thank you very much for the help Lending your daughters to me.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:How I became a master instructor and eventually became a senior master instructor. So I had the capability of trying to build the base of instructors that I eventually wanted to, trying to build the base of instructors that I eventually wanted to. To become a master instructor, I went through an additional 10 weeks of theoretical development and trained side by side with a master instructor and then, after five years of being a master instructor, I then became a senior master instructor and I went through an additional 10 weeks of training, and that's what. That's what led me to where I am today.
Speaker 1:So if I could put a master instructor, then a senior master instructor, because, again, even though I've been around you for a long time, so in my simplistic mind, could a senior master instructor kind of be the equivalent of a doctor in swimming, teaching, swimming survival? Could I equate the two?
Speaker 2:Sure, I think I know everything.
Speaker 1:So if I could put some categories so a master instructor would be someone that had a master's degree and then a senior master instructor with someone that would be someone that has a doctorate degree Would that be a fair comparison in what you do?
Speaker 2:That's such a compliment. Thank you, Chris. Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we're clear about that. All right, so you're highly skilled and you're highly educated at what you do in your profession. Go ahead, carry on. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I continue to interrupt you.
Speaker 2:I want to make sure that some things get pulled out as we go through. Okay, so I'm going to go back to the training part of what an instructor, what it all entails. This is structured so they have hands on from day one with a student and train them through the entire swim float swim process. The training process for both child and student instructor consists of scientifically based methodology of operant conditioning and the use of schedules and reinforcement, which is used to shape any and all behaviors in and out of the water. This allows the young student to learn through sensory motor learning, which is why the retention rate is so high with the swim float swim method and is such a successful approach.
Speaker 1:So, as a parent, your doctorate degree, so to speak, in teaching children the swim float, swim method, me as a parent, understanding where and I'll just use Eli where he comes and he has no ability to do that on his own and watching him under your tutelage for eight weeks, 10 weeks, 12 weeks, whatever the amount of weeks is there's a tremendous turnaround, because I see the way that you touch him and you guide him and you force him to do things that are uncomfortable, but they are in a manner that is teaching him the necessary survival skills.
Speaker 1:And I transfer that to when we are interacting in a pool outside of your lessons. The progression that I see from him week to week and I'll share a story about actually getting a little bit later, but I see the progression as a parent, and so it really works. All the scientific theory I don't get into all that because that's your specialty, but what you do works and you've done it for thousands and thousands of families and children and even some adults. You've helped as well. So continue on, heidi, you're doing a great job.
Speaker 2:Okay. So going to what you just said was about you know, when I went back and I was explaining, educating the parents throughout the child's journey is a by-product and it is a by-product Educating you and Anne Marie was very important to me for you to understand. It builds a value and Anne-Marie was very important to me for you to understand. It builds a value for what I do that I'm not just a regular swim instructor. I try to emulate a lot of or incorporate a lot of theory in there and when you guys got in and you practiced with Eli and Gideon they were both they started to make the emotional turn of. This is very hard work with you, but I can definitely see how I can incorporate this with my mom and dad and maybe have fun. So you going home on the weekends and you practicing what we, what I taught you throughout the week became a very important aspect of them growing independently on their own.
Speaker 1:And something else that I noticed.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of things that kind of go through my mind when we had our initial experiences with you and your staff.
Speaker 1:And your business goes beyond just teaching survival, swimming lessons and one of the things that I noticed on the pool deck you know, sitting there for four or five days a week for several, several weeks is that the parents got an opportunity to know and understand each other and all the parents were kind of going through the same struggles and you have an innate ability to connect people and that's something that's very special because as a parent, you know not having any expectation of what's going on. You can talk to other parents on the pool deck and you know we can all cheer each other's kids on, because and you know we can all cheer each other's kids on because sometimes it seems like a madhouse that you know the kids are yelling and screaming and they're just being kids, but you know you have a command of really what's going on and then afterwards you check in and you know you connect the families. You know outside of, just purely on the swimming deck, and can you talk about that why you're such a good connector.
Speaker 2:Why am I a good connector? Because I love people, Chris. You know that. You see that.
Speaker 2:I love people. I think that everybody that comes on my pool deck is meant to be there. I'm meant to meet them. They're they're meant to be in my life for some reason or a specific period of time, whatever, and I love people. So the one thing that I I don't think that I'm great at is really knowing exactly what everyone that comes on my pool deck does. So there are times when I don't think that I maximize knowing what everybody does, but somehow, some way, I have an ability to eventually find out what people do and connect one another through various sports, medical professions, activities. What have you so? Yes, I meet a lot of people and I do love to connect people together. Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, as I mentioned before, I came to know Heidi as a recommendation from one of my best friends who had never met or had no interaction with Heidi. He just heard about her and her abilities and said, Chris, you might want to just check her out. And that's kind of really how we came to know each other. So you're doing something right there, Heidi. I think what you say is your opportunity. I think it's a definite strength. I wanted you to just kind of talk a little bit about some of the statistics. You don't have to go into a great deal, but some of the statistics around aquatic accidents with children, I don't know infants, young children Again, that's your specialty, it's not mine.
Speaker 2:Okay, so first I want to talk about why I do it and I want to go back and really give you a little bit of history. I was taught to swim at a young age myself. I think that my dad might have probably just thrown me, tossed me in, and it was flight or fight, I don't really remember, it doesn't really matter at this point, but from a very young age I just knew I knew how to swim. I grew up swimming in lakes in New York, in Vermont. I swam competitively my whole life and most people just thought I was a mermaid. If I wasn't in a pool, competitively swimming, I was playing in our backyard pool, going to the beach. I love the water. You couldn't keep me out of it.
Speaker 2:However, my mom was not a great swimmer, so when we moved from New York to Florida back in the early 80s, she insisted on finding a program that would teach children necessary skills to survive, since we were surrounded by water. And at the age of 15, I watched my twin cousins learn to roll back and float at nine months of age. Watched my twin cousins learn to roll back and float at nine months of age. I say I was as amazed as I could be as a 15-year-old, but for the next several years, the next 15 years, I watched every child in my family continue through the swim method with ISR, with Infant Swimming Resource. After watching my twins participate in these types of lessons, I was encouraged by my mom and dad to get back in the water in some capacity to do something that I loved. At that time, the drowning epidemic really wasn't my why in the beginning stages. My why was about finding a profession that I loved and serving with a purpose. I fast learned drowning, which my daughters were 18 months at the time when they went through lessons. When I started to become more educated about the drowning epidemic, it definitely became my purpose. So now I'd like to go into the drowning statistics.
Speaker 2:Drowning claims 320,000 people a year worldwide, according to the CDC. Every year in the US, an estimated 3,900 fatal unintentional drowning deaths, which is an average of 11 deaths per day. 8,080 non-fatal drownings, which is an average of 22 a day. Non-fatal drownings can result in long-term health problems and costly hospital stays. Drowning of ages one through four is the number one leading cause of death, which I've already said, and the second leading cause in children ages four through 14. When you think about it. Many parents are working from home these days, so they try to save money by keeping their children home and through the COVID pandemic, child drownings increased in Florida from 69 deaths to 98 in a year, and that was a huge increase for us.
Speaker 1:From what Heidi just described in regards to aquatic accidents, you can see why I described her as someone that prevents grief, and especially with children. And if you've listened to my podcast on children and grief, you know that losing a child is very, very traumatic, and if there's any one thing that a parent can do is especially around water, is to get your child swimming and structure so they can have the ability to survive an aquatic accident. It is powerful. I'm going to give you a story here in regards to my son Gideon my son Gideon. So again, anne-marie and I were on the forefront of getting the boys swimming survival skills at a very, very early age under a year old for both of them, and it was one because we didn't want to have any sort of an accident, but we were always in the water and I wanted them to have independence in the water and not just clinging to me. And so there was one time where we were going to our community pool in our community and the boys this is after they had been to under Heidi's tutelage for years and they were both going up to the pool's edge, they had already put their sunblock on and I was back under one of the chairs and as they were walking up, there was a mom that was frantic and she was watching me as the boys were approaching the water and I could see out of the corner of my eye. She starts to approach the boys as they are going to the water, and Gideon at this point. He's small but Gideon can swim, so as they're running up, she proceeds to start running up as well. And I looked at mom and I said mom, don't worry about it, the boys have both been trained to have survival swimming skills and they can both swim. Because of Gideon's size, at the time she still wasn't believing me. But once we got in the water and she saw that they were able to progress and swim, she was really surprised and she said you know, wow, he's so small and how is he able to do so much? And I said well, we've been to Swim Sprout and that's where they have gotten all this skill. And I said that's why I don't have to worry about my boys when we're around water. Obviously, as a parent I have a close swaths, full eye.
Speaker 1:But Gideon also, in Heidi's pool he fell in. I believe he fell in fully clothed. I think he was fooling around on the pool deck and he fell in and Heidi just said wait, this is an opportunity to show his stuff, and he certainly did. He did his little swim, float, swim, and so we knew he got it. So that is all thanks to Heidi, and that is a parent I'm very appreciative and that's, you know, less of a worry for us. I never want my children to be in a situation to where they're scared of water or, you know, if they get in a situation where they're not going to be able to, you know, take care of their own. So, heidi, thank you for that and thank you for all you do. Is there anything that I missed? I'm going to go into some other things too, but is there anything that I missed?
Speaker 2:I'm going to go into some other things too, but is there anything that I missed or I didn't give you an opportunity or I cut you off, like I commonly do? The only thing that I think that I want to say, I think this is a great opportunity for me just to basically say exactly what lessons consist of. They're one-on-one. They're tailored to each individual child based on their previous history. We work a lot with special needs children and so the one-on-one really helps be able to completely tailor to their needs. The lessons are Monday through Thursday. They're 10 minutes each. 28 to 32 lessons can train the average child who is walking for at least six to eight weeks to successfully swim, float swim, and if they're not, I should be contacted. There are various instructors around central florida. We are expanding to the panhandle this spring. We have one instructor in Texas and we can be reached at swimsproutcom.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to let you go that easy. I'm going to give you another opportunity to plug your website and how you can be contacted as well. Heidi, from how you described your training of children to do their swim float swim technique, I liken it to me as a financial planner building a financial plan for a client, and there's some similarities, some very drastic similarities, and the similarities are for each child that you basically build a plan for them, and it's unique to that individual child and it is not unlike the way that I build a plan for a client and for each client that I build a plan for, it is unique to their individual situation. So I see some parallels, even though that we're doing different things. There are some very distinct parallels between the two. As you know, I'm watching Heidi and the initial stages of her training, eli. I witnessed some other things on the pool deck and again you are sitting there with other parents and you're watching an inflow of. It seemed like droves of kids come through and get trained correctly. And I'd mentioned earlier that you have a knack for connecting folks and you said that you like folks and that's why you connect people For some reason. And you said that you like folks and that's why you connect people. For some reason you like me, even though I give you such a hard time, and maybe it's because you like the punishment, I don't know. And you know, you and your staff and you're obviously, you know, very, very good with your families. And I'm going to sidebar here. So her husband I gave him the nickname of staff, you know, when we were on there because Heidi would command her husband at points to do things like in the house and you know, make sure this is on or make sure this is off, or do this or do that. So I started to call him staff.
Speaker 1:And again, you know I had become curious about Heidi and her business and her growth opportunity. So I took an opportunity I think it was an off day and it was just me, eli, on the pool deck I got to ask Heidi a lot of questions about her business and I got to disclose a lot of things that have happened in my life and that was, I think, a turning point that Heidi and I really connected and it led me to want to help Heidi in the growth of her business. I saw the power of what she could do and again she alluded to. She is very good at what she does the technical theory in the pool and, you know, training kids through her methods. So I was like, well, this may be an opportunity for me to help Heidi.
Speaker 1:You know, beyond what she is doing now, and something I don't often talk about and I don't think I've really mentioned it too much on the podcast before is that I had a wealth of business knowledge that I gained from my father over the years and he often took me to business meetings.
Speaker 1:He often engaged me in business scenarios and business dealings. He did that as far back as I could remember and then, as I got to be an adult, things just started clicking for me in the business world and I could answer questions and I had no idea, like why you're not going to answer this question or that question, and it just hit me. You know my father was taking me on these meetings and so Heidi and I had a conversation and I thought I could help her and I said, hey, you know how would you like some help to grow your business? So I kind of became Heidi's business coach of sorts and, heidi, I'm going to let you take it from there and you know where you were, what your vision was and then kind of how this helped you in your business having a business coach.
Speaker 2:Do you really want me to take it from here Because you were scared? I?
Speaker 1:wouldn't ask if I didn't want the truthful answer, so I was scary. Yes, I intimidate a lot of people.
Speaker 2:Yes, chris was a scary dude, but that wasn't like a new task, a new thing for me, my husband, but I'm not really scary, that's just Heidi.
Speaker 2:So I took him on. I actually took the bull by the horns and I said, yeah, I'm going to tackle this guy, I'm going to see what he has to offer me. So when I first met Chris and really I think he vetted me for a long time, as much as I probably vetted him because he did command respect he was kind of serious and he asked a lot of questions, more than I really wanted to. He wanted to see proof of my insurance. He wanted to see proof of my CPR, he wanted to see proof of anything that had he wanted to see. So I produced it.
Speaker 2:But what I liked about him and why I gravitated toward him, toward him was because he did command the respect and I felt like he saw something in me that I probably hadn't seen in myself yet.
Speaker 2:I was just I really don't want to say that I was winging it because in my head at the time I felt like I had all of my ideas.
Speaker 2:I had tasks, I had my thoughts, I had lists I do lists for days.
Speaker 2:So I felt like I was disciplined enough to build my business. I felt like I had the tools that I needed to train instructors, but what I didn't have was the business sense at all, and I learned that very fast through a business, hiring a business attorney, having Chris take me under his wing, and so I had to start putting a lot of trust in him and we went to work. He'd give me an assignment, he'd give me a deadline, and because he was investing in me, I wanted him to see that I too had the utmost respect for him, and I had to complete the task days before he really wanted it, because I wanted to impress him, I wanted to show him something that maybe he hadn't seen in somebody. So that's really where it started, and very quickly, working with Chris, he realized I was working every aspect of my business and swiftly forced me to find people whom could do the same work I was doing, so I could then work on the things I needed to to grow, which I wasn't.
Speaker 1:Delegation Delegation.
Speaker 2:I would have stayed there for a long time because I was not willing. I didn't think anybody could sell me or sell my business like I could, and I hired employees. So after that, chris and I went to work on assignments on how I would grow, what my visions were, what was my academic material like, and we just kept moving forward. One week after another, we argued a lot, that I had a lot of thoughts in my head, but nothing on paper. That was a pivotal turning point for me was putting it all on paper.
Speaker 1:So, heidi, what I can say about you? Heidi, you're a hustler, a hustler in a good way. My boys and I read the True Meaning of a Hustler and sometimes it gets a little misconstrued. And sometimes it gets a little misconstrued. So, in regards to Heidi as a hustler, I'm referring to her having a task and getting after it, regardless of what is in her way, and she'll get it done. And that was really what I saw in Heidi dealings over the years with lots of people.
Speaker 1:I have found very few people that have the get after it mentality that Heidi has. And I knew about her mentality because taking, you know, the theory and the training that she has done for another company and then transferring that to her own company, and not only transferring it but transferring it and then growing to 15 instructors. That's pretty powerful and that's pretty successful. And you can't do that kind of sitting idly on the sidelines and not putting the work in and the time. And Heidi is, all in all, invested and you know her life circulates around what she does Very, very passionate.
Speaker 1:And that was really what I saw in Heidi that somebody was as passionate about what they do as I am passionate about what I do, and so it was reassuring to see that and, like I mentioned before, I keep my inner circle pretty small, but there are a few people that you know force their way into my inner circle. Heidi is one of those folks. There's another gal that is going to be on a podcast as well who is in my inner circle. But I really respect Heidi and you know what she's done and how she handles her business and how she handles her family life and you know just the professional that she is, looked at an avenue to where she could transfer her skill set into a nonprofit organization and give back to the community. So I want to give you an opportunity to plug that as well, heidi.
Speaker 2:Okay, Mid last year, a lady by the name of Bernadette. It's all about connections, honestly. The connection started off with the owner of Bonefish.
Speaker 1:Bonefish Grill. It's a restaurant.
Speaker 2:He knew that I was a swim instructor. He knew that there was a lady that worked for Halifax. Just one one avenue led to another.
Speaker 1:honestly, Halifax Medical Center. It's a hospital.
Speaker 2:And put me in touch with a lady that worked for Halifax who was working directly with a family who had lost their son in 2013 on a carnival cruise to drowning, and I immediately was drawn to. This could be my partnering nonprofit and I met Tashara Hunter back in September of 2021. And I was deeply connected instantly. So we kind of talked back and forth and I worked a little bit. I just basically told her whatever you need from me, let me help. I want to become a partner, became a partner, and by January I was meeting with her and Cassell, her husband, and they asked me to join the board and wanted me to become their drowning prevention specialist. So I pondered on it for about a day and accepted the position, and here we are.
Speaker 2:So our very first function that we're going to do for 2022 is actually going to take place in Avalon Park, florida. On April 2nd, the Kiwanis Club in Avalon is hosting an event. It's called the Caring Festival and this event is to connect family and community to caring services and resources, bringing awareness the light of loss, bringing awareness, the light of loss. And so this completely ties in with drowning drowning prevention. The mission of the foundation is to provide swim lessons for underprivileged children to be a place of comfort. When Tashara and Cassell lost their son, they had chaplain, they had chaplain support, they had meals brought to them. The services that they plan to provide, moving forward, are grief services and provide scholarships for kids to have survival swim lessons.
Speaker 1:Can you expand on some of the services under the kind of the grief services umbrella that they plan to provide? You'd mentioned food for families and some of those other things.
Speaker 2:Yes, their long-term goal, their five-year plan, is to have one building and under that building they want to have a pool with instructors. They want to have a kitchen so that we can cook food for families during this time. We'll have a chapel. They will have a chaplain. They will have arrangements with funeral homes to help serve during that time and provide financing for those families.
Speaker 1:So a very, very good foundation is what you have simply lined yourself up with. And again, what I see is you are all in to what you do, and this is just a replication of what you do, and you're giving back to the community. So I commend you for doing that 100%. So can you name the foundation again, and how can the foundation be found online, and how?
Speaker 2:can the foundation be found online? The name of the foundation is the Quentin Hunter Love Foundation. You can find the foundation by going to tqhlfoundationorg. That's the Quentin Hunter Love Foundationorg.
Speaker 1:I also want to give you, heidi, the opportunity to plug Swim Sprout, because you do such a wonderful job and people love you endlessly. So how can folks find you If they want to be part of your organization, if they want your great tutelage or any of your instructors, mrs Senior, master, instructor, plus plus, plus. How do they find you, heidi?
Speaker 2:I'm a pretty easy person to love though, aren't I, Chris?
Speaker 1:Yes, you are Heidi.
Speaker 2:So you can find us at SwimSproutcom. There are plenty of tabs there where you can find me. There is training opportunities for you. To connect with me directly, you can contact me at 7047sprout to find us online.
Speaker 1:Heidi, is there anything that you wanted to speak about or you didn't have the opportunity to talk about? And as I have to do with Heidi sometimes, I'm going to put Heidi on a time limit. Go, Heidi.
Speaker 2:So the one thing that I do want to finish. I want I'm going to finish by saying Chris transformed my business and I want everyone to know how, because it was a very pivotal moment for me. A very pivotal time for me which was probably a list of four things he specifically wanted me to protect my brand through trademarking it. I didn't think that that was important. I learned fast that it was because somebody tried to incorporate swim into their name locally here, growing Swim Sprout Instructors within timelines I created in my head. He forced me to put that vision on paper. He forced me to create a development process to ensure quality control for the company to provide safe and effective, efficient lessons for children from every instructor. He started to provide input, continuing personal relationships and how we must create that amongst clients. He got me to create a community amongst my instructors so that they could see that they could build and grow both individually and with us as a team.
Speaker 1:Well, Heidi, I appreciate the opportunity to work with you professionally. I appreciate our friendship and I appreciate you taking me at face value, giving me trash along the way to keep me humble, and I appreciate you keeping my kids out of trouble. So thank you. It's been a very, very good friendship. More than anything else, you know above and beyond, so I appreciate you. A few things are thinking about that are going through my head. You had mentioned your mom, Dixie, who is one of my favorite people in the world. So I just love Heidi's family to death and we've interacted so many times. Heidi knows Uncle Mike, I've met a lot of folks in her family and we share a lot of good times together as extended family. So I'm very, very appreciative of that. Heidi, and, as always to any of our listeners, thank you for listening. I really appreciate it and feel free to pass this episode on to any friends, family members or colleagues.
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